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Thallandor · Nov 29, 2006, 01:18 AM // 01:18

After 5 Pages of "discussion" no one even asked if Heros will be allowed in the Elite mission?

If Kormir at the Chantry of Secrets is used for access for the Elite mission which is logical since you can only access there once you completed the game, if my memory serves me correct, you can only /kneel and summon komir if your region has Favor.

Will the Elite mission area be then limited by Favor?

To those with comments like: "lets wait and find out": Sorry i am not interested in making more hate posts against Anet in a flame thread that spawns over 50+ pages to say that limiting the Elite mission access by favor is a Bad idea apart from the requirement of having to to complete the game.

Edit: misread Tarus previous comment of Throne of Secret with the Chantry of Secrets.

sindex · Nov 29, 2006, 01:23 AM // 01:23

Yeah what about Razah great news about the Elite mission and all; but are they still fixing him or is he a dud?

Tarus From Taros · Nov 29, 2006, 01:24 AM // 01:24

Well guy's consider what I said earlier in the third question I asked. What if the statue of kormir at the Throne of Secrets let's you into the elite mission?

This way you can still access the elite mission with only PvE requirements but if your country has favor you get to access the elite mission much easier as an incentive.

I think that's fair. It's not as if Abaddon take's a lot of time to finish off.

[Edit]: Yes sindex, Razah has been confirmed to be part of the update along with the elite mission.

sindex · Nov 29, 2006, 01:30 AM // 01:30

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Originally Posted by Tarus From Taros

[Edit]: Yes sindex, Razah has been confirmed to be part of the update along with the elite mission.

So then if that’s the ticket then what will be the extra tid-bit about Gaile stating something really cool will be added during the Wintersday update; or in fact this is it. Don't get me wrong but it's cool that everything is coming together, but at least more info before we head into speculation space would be nice (not meaning you of course).

Loki Seiguro · Nov 29, 2006, 01:32 AM // 01:32

lol i have a feeling its perminetnt and they threw it out just in time before people ditched the game

Does-it-Matter · Nov 29, 2006, 01:33 AM // 01:33

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Originally Posted by Thallandor

To those with comments like: "lets wait and find out": Sorry i am not interested in making more hate posts against Anet in a flame thread that spawns over 50+ pages to say that limiting the Elite mission access by favor is a Bad idea apart from the requirement of having to to complete the game.

So, asside from saying "I don't like the way that soon-to-be implimented idea sounds or... I like the way the soon-to-be implimented idea sounds." What is left that you consider "on topic" here, that ISN'T speculation?

LL ShadowIX LL · Nov 29, 2006, 01:40 AM // 01:40

gah, if its new hero armor im gonna scream!! but earlier the scribe did mention jewels that werent crafting item,s maybe these are the upgrades gaile mentioned. hmm, who knows, but yeah, an armor making use of diamonds would be tight. so many possiblities, i guess ill have to wait till the weekend...PARAGONS FTW!!! Lightbringer's gaze ftw too lol

[DE] · Nov 29, 2006, 01:50 AM // 01:50

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Originally Posted by Loki Seiguro

lol i have a feeling its perminetnt and they threw it out just in time before people ditched the game

Grammar is ftw. Anyways it's obvious that it will be permanent and the reason it is just now being introduced is because they weren't able to finish it on time for the release of Nightfall.

Knightsaber Sith · Nov 29, 2006, 01:51 AM // 01:51

The website says

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new armor upgrade options, a system for acquiring novel weapons

But it think they got it backwards cause the login announcement says

(novel armor upgrade options, and a brand new system for weapon acqusition)

So I think there might be some minor appearance upgrades for the amors (I doubt it would be anything concerning stats labeled as "novel") and maybe some kind of special collector for weapons.

Tarus From Taros · Nov 29, 2006, 01:58 AM // 01:58

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Originally Posted by sindex

So then if that’s the ticket then what will be the extra tid-bit about Gaile stating something really cool will be added during the Wintersday update; or in fact this is it. Don't get me wrong but it's cool that everything is coming together, but at least more info before we head into speculation space would be nice (not meaning you of course).

Gaile has recently mentioned Razah will be acquired after the Elite Mission update. You can check the logs on that. She's not going to say how due to a.) She want's it to be a surprise and b.) She probably doesn't know exactly how anyway.

Thallandor · Nov 29, 2006, 02:02 AM // 02:02

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Originally Posted by Tarus From Taros

Well guy's consider what I said earlier in the third question I asked. What if the statue of kormir at the Throne of Secrets let's you into the elite mission?

This way you can still access the elite mission with only PvE requirements but if your country has favor you get to access the elite mission much easier as an incentive.

I think that's fair. It's not as if Abaddon take's a lot of time to finish off.

[Edit]: Yes sindex, Razah has been confirmed to be part of the update along with the elite mission.

It already been said that the Elite mission access will be from Chantry of Secrets not Throne of Secrets.(ie the area you access after defeating abaddon and get a green item and endgame armour)

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This weekend is truly special, as we launch the opening of the Domain of Anguish. Players who have completed Nightfall will be given access to this elite area through the Chantry of Secrets on Friday, December 1st. You will find four separate areas for players to explore, nearly a dozen quests, new armor upgrade options, a system for acquiring novel weapons, and of course a compelling mission as well. We look forward to seeing you in the Domain of Anguish!

Sorry Tarus, i will fight your arguement to the death(or banning) for favor to be used to Access the Elite mission area.

How is it fair in your perspective that a PvE Area is limited by the PvP aspect of the game. Though killing Abaddon may take only around 15-17 mins on average, it takes some time for a character to reach the end mission itself.

Edit: unless you mean:
No favor-access Elite mssion by defeating abaddon
With favor-access Elite mission normally by Chantry of secrets

which i think is still not a good idea/alternative.

Zehnchu · Nov 29, 2006, 02:03 AM // 02:03

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Originally Posted by Thallandor

After 5 Pages of "discussion" no one even asked if Heros will be allowed in the Elite mission?

As Tarus pointed out, if Kormir at the Throne of Secrets is used for access for the Elite mission which is logical since you can only access there once you completed the game, if my memory serves me correct, you can only /kneel and summon komir if your region has Favor.

Will the Elite mission area be then limited by Favor?

To those with comments like: "lets wait and find out": Sorry i am not interested in making more hate posts against Anet in a flame thread that spawns over 50+ pages to say that limiting the Elite mission access by favor is a Bad idea apart from the requirement of having to to complete the game.

It would be nice to see that the only limitation on getting into the elite area would be just finishing the game. It would be a nice change from the other disliked favor systems.

I thought I would check on that but we have favor so I couldn’t see if Kormir popped up if we didn’t. I could have swore when I finished with one of my characters and kneeled when we didn’t have favor and she popped up, but then I could have been mistaken.

But having to finish the game plus having favor…that’s just plain mean.

jon0592 · Nov 29, 2006, 02:04 AM // 02:04

Hahaha...Razah's proffession is "variable", right? What Anet probably means is that you pick his/her proffession and that's his/her proffession for the rest of the game...

Please DO NOT quote me on that, that's my wild guess.

Even if the above is true, most people would pick ritualist.

Knightsaber Sith · Nov 29, 2006, 02:08 AM // 02:08

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Originally Posted by jon0592

Hahaha...Razah's proffession is "variable", right? What Anet probably means is that you pick his/her proffession and that's his/her proffession for the rest of the game...

Please DO NOT quote me on that, that's my wild guess.

Even if the above is true, most people would pick ritualist.

It's been suggested before
-somewhere in here http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10069565
but that just seems unlikely to me.

Tarus From Taros · Nov 29, 2006, 02:12 AM // 02:12

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Originally Posted by Thallandor

It already been said that the Elite mission access will be from Chantry of Secrets not Throne of Secrets.

Sorry Tarus, i will fight your arguement to the death(or banning) for favor to be used to Access the Elite mission area.

How it is fair in your prespective that a PvE Area is limited by the PvP aspect of the game. Though killing Abaddon may take only around 15-17 mins on average, it takes some time for a character to reach the end mission itself.

I think you are misunderstanding me. Re-read my first post on this. What i'm implying is what if the Elite Mission can be accessed from two different areas? Chantry of Secrets if we have favor and Throne of Secrets regardless of favor. The benefit of going through Chantry is it's really simple vs. having to go through abaddon. What I think is fair is that having favor gives you that benefit but your not limited to needing favor to enter.

Zehnchu you are half way right. When you kneeled to see the avatar you were most likely at the Throne of Secrets, not Chantry. That is why she popped up.

Travek Lavv · Nov 29, 2006, 02:12 AM // 02:12

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Originally Posted by edwinna elbert

There is nothing to say that the "new armor upgrade options" will be for players.

Elite hero armours perhaps?

Im thinking the same thing. it says armor upgrades and as far as I can read into that I assume it will be like the other elite missions where you get stuff and trade it in for cool-skinned hero armor.

Tarus From Taros · Nov 29, 2006, 02:23 AM // 02:23

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Originally Posted by Travek Lavv

Im thinking the same thing. it says armor upgrades and as far as I can read into that I assume it will be like the other elite missions where you get stuff and trade it in for cool-skinned hero armor.

Firstly you get hero armors from Challenge Missions not elite missions.

"Novel Armor Upgrade Options"

First thing to come to my mind is upgrading your Canthan/Tyrian armor to allow insignias.

Curse You · Nov 29, 2006, 02:30 AM // 02:30

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Originally Posted by Graywing

I'm almost 100% positively sure you end up at the south of the map because there's one huge gate floating there that ain't used at the moment ( just take a look at the map I have made ).

And on closer inspection while making a new map for it I already counted 4 exits on this gate (you can see 3 from gate of secrets and another one from gate of madness).

I only count 3 exits...

natuxatu · Nov 29, 2006, 02:31 AM // 02:31

You guys keep saying it's an elite mission but it's an elite *AREA* with four AREAS to explore.. I don't think this is like ToW or FoW.. it's more like a combo between The deep (for access) and SF (for gameplay)

Kakumei · Nov 29, 2006, 02:40 AM // 02:40

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Originally Posted by natuxatu

You guys keep saying it's an elite mission but it's an elite *AREA* with four AREAS to explore.. I don't think this is like ToW or FoW.. it's more like a combo between The deep (for access) and SF (for gameplay)

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Originally Posted by the site

This weekend is truly special, as we launch the opening of the Domain of Anguish. Players who have completed Nightfall will be given access to this elite area through the Chantry of Secrets on Friday, December 1st. You will find four separate areas for players to explore, nearly a dozen quests, new armor upgrade options, a system for acquiring novel weapons, and of course a compelling mission as well. We look forward to seeing you in the Domain of Anguish!

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